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Post by scott on Jul 8, 2008 14:19:53 GMT -5
Depends what he does
IMO if he gets around the 280 win range he's in,
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Post by Torii Hunter on Jul 8, 2008 14:20:59 GMT -5
He'll hit 280, don't worry.
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Post by adello25 on Jul 8, 2008 14:21:48 GMT -5
No, that isn;t true. What if over the next 3 years he finishes 20-30 (He'll get to 280 wins) with a combined era of 5-6. You can not put that type of player in the HOF
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Post by scott on Jul 8, 2008 14:23:30 GMT -5
I don't see him having a 5-6 ERA.
there is a lot of opinions if he's in hall of fame right now.
its hard to tell
you cant predict what he will/wont do.
He could get 300 wins, He could retire, who knows.
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Post by Torii Hunter on Jul 8, 2008 14:25:16 GMT -5
I like debates like this, let's keep debating! ;D
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Post by adello25 on Jul 8, 2008 14:26:35 GMT -5
Scott, exactly, thats why you cant say hes a HOF right now
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Post by Torii Hunter on Jul 8, 2008 14:29:51 GMT -5
No, that isn;t true. What if over the next 3 years he finishes 20-30 (He'll get to 280 wins) with a combined era of 5-6. You can not put that type of player in the HOF You could if he had good overall numbers. Are you saying that Randy Johnson shouldn't go because he had these seasons: season team g gs cg sho ip h r er HR BB SO W L SV HLD ERA 1998 Sea 23 23 6 2 160.0 146 90 77 19 60 213 9 10 0 0 4.33 2003 Ari 18 18 1 1 114.0 125 61 54 16 27 125 6 8 0 0 4.26 2006 NYY 33 33 2 0 205.0 194 125 114 28 60 172 17 11 0 0 5.01 2008 Ari 16 16 1 0 92.0 105 61 53 13 27 92 5 7 0 0 -- 5.19 |
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Post by Torii Hunter on Jul 8, 2008 14:31:23 GMT -5
Johnson has as high as ERA as Mussina, has some similar stats.
G GS CG SHO IP H R ER HR BB SO W L SV HLD BLSV ERA
Total -- 582 572 99 37 3947.1 3170 1617 1434 381 1449 4708 289 157 2 0 1 3.27
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Post by adello25 on Jul 8, 2008 14:32:53 GMT -5
Johnson also has 4 Cy Youngs and multiple 300+ K seasons, plus single season strikeout leader for several years
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Post by scott on Jul 8, 2008 15:08:21 GMT -5
Johnson IMO is a lock for the hall of fame.
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Post by yankeeboy on Jul 8, 2008 22:12:49 GMT -5
^Ya 1st ballot. IMO tho, if schlling makes the HOF, Moose is in there. Both aren;t fiest ballots tho
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Post by scott on Jul 10, 2008 14:29:51 GMT -5
Schilling might....how is Bert Byleven not in though?
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